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	Comments on: ‘We are creatures of dust who cry out to God’: Ephraim Radner on pandemic and apocalypse	</title>
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		By: Dr K Schwartz		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://anglicanjournal.com/we-are-creatures-of-dust-who-cry-out-to-god-ephraim-radner-on-pandemic-and-apocalypse/#comment-33300&quot;&gt;The Rev. Canon Rod Gillis&lt;/a&gt;.

A member of an Anglican parish sent thus it me, and I felt I had to address the issue of this pandemic and climate change.  While the effects of climate change are enormous upon mankind, it is unfortunate to see faith used as a means to promote social injustices causes or climate change. As a physician I see how politics interferes with medicine, but to answer these philosophical questions is in such terms is not evasive, but dishonest.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://anglicanjournal.com/we-are-creatures-of-dust-who-cry-out-to-god-ephraim-radner-on-pandemic-and-apocalypse/#comment-33300">The Rev. Canon Rod Gillis</a>.</p>
<p>A member of an Anglican parish sent thus it me, and I felt I had to address the issue of this pandemic and climate change.  While the effects of climate change are enormous upon mankind, it is unfortunate to see faith used as a means to promote social injustices causes or climate change. As a physician I see how politics interferes with medicine, but to answer these philosophical questions is in such terms is not evasive, but dishonest.</p>
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		By: The Reverend Pat Langlois		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[I commend the Anglican Journal for including this interview with Ephraim Radner. As always he provides much food for thought in a very personable and non-authoritarian manner. He was asked what he thinks and shared what he thinks. Personally, I totally agree with him.
Climate change, social justice, care of the environment are all very important.
Paramount in all of this present time is our understanding of God, as best we can understand God for God is beyond our understanding. That is part of human finitude.
Thank you for this article, and thank you Ephraim Radner for sharing your thoughts.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I commend the Anglican Journal for including this interview with Ephraim Radner. As always he provides much food for thought in a very personable and non-authoritarian manner. He was asked what he thinks and shared what he thinks. Personally, I totally agree with him.<br />
Climate change, social justice, care of the environment are all very important.<br />
Paramount in all of this present time is our understanding of God, as best we can understand God for God is beyond our understanding. That is part of human finitude.<br />
Thank you for this article, and thank you Ephraim Radner for sharing your thoughts.</p>
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		By: The Rev. Canon Rod Gillis		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[With what can only be described as a  pessimistic Christian anthropology, Ephraim Radner hedges his bets in answering a number of  the questions put to him here. There is no need to do so.  Contemporary Christian thinkers must be clear on their starting point for theological reflection on the Covid 19 crisis.  Viruses are not sent to us by supernatural entities be they God, the gods, demons, angels. On the one hand viruses are random naturally occurring phenomena.  On the other hand,  many of the conditions for the development and spread of viruses, as various international agencies point out, are related to our  problematic relationship with nature, most especially climate change. Added into the mix is the lack of both social investment in, and political commitment to, robust international structures dealing with world health. 

I suggest that turning to biblical plague mythology as the first place to look is not helpful. What is required is a reflection on biblical sources in tandem with inter-disciplinary dialogue with other specialties. We are not bereft of examples on how to proceed. One excellent framework is the exhaustive papal encyclical Laudato Si issued by Pope Francis. Laudato Si has a balanced anthropology. It recognizes that we are made of the dust of the earth  (#2). It also states &quot; The  Creator  does  not  abandon  us;  he  never  forsakes  his  loving  plan  or  repents  of   having  created  us.  Humanity  still  has  the  ability  to work together in building our common home.&quot; (#13).  Chapter Four of Laudato Si addresses  an Integral Ecology. We have to relate the arrival of various diseases ( of which Covid is one) to the overarching challenges of encroachment upon nature and climate change. This moves the pertinent issues into the realm of theological ethics , demanding our response as individual and collective moral actors. 

As for tapping into ancient prayer forms like the Great Litany, I may do so; but I must do  as a person living in an age of scientific insight .  If one prays for deliverance from, for example, &quot;plague, pestilence, and famine&quot; one must be clearly cognizant, as one  prays,  of the politcal vectors and human social  failings that result in these crises--especially the contributions of vested economic interests.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With what can only be described as a  pessimistic Christian anthropology, Ephraim Radner hedges his bets in answering a number of  the questions put to him here. There is no need to do so.  Contemporary Christian thinkers must be clear on their starting point for theological reflection on the Covid 19 crisis.  Viruses are not sent to us by supernatural entities be they God, the gods, demons, angels. On the one hand viruses are random naturally occurring phenomena.  On the other hand,  many of the conditions for the development and spread of viruses, as various international agencies point out, are related to our  problematic relationship with nature, most especially climate change. Added into the mix is the lack of both social investment in, and political commitment to, robust international structures dealing with world health. </p>
<p>I suggest that turning to biblical plague mythology as the first place to look is not helpful. What is required is a reflection on biblical sources in tandem with inter-disciplinary dialogue with other specialties. We are not bereft of examples on how to proceed. One excellent framework is the exhaustive papal encyclical Laudato Si issued by Pope Francis. Laudato Si has a balanced anthropology. It recognizes that we are made of the dust of the earth  (#2). It also states &#8221; The  Creator  does  not  abandon  us;  he  never  forsakes  his  loving  plan  or  repents  of   having  created  us.  Humanity  still  has  the  ability  to work together in building our common home.&#8221; (#13).  Chapter Four of Laudato Si addresses  an Integral Ecology. We have to relate the arrival of various diseases ( of which Covid is one) to the overarching challenges of encroachment upon nature and climate change. This moves the pertinent issues into the realm of theological ethics , demanding our response as individual and collective moral actors. </p>
<p>As for tapping into ancient prayer forms like the Great Litany, I may do so; but I must do  as a person living in an age of scientific insight .  If one prays for deliverance from, for example, &#8220;plague, pestilence, and famine&#8221; one must be clearly cognizant, as one  prays,  of the politcal vectors and human social  failings that result in these crises&#8211;especially the contributions of vested economic interests.</p>
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