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		By: Richard Earle Earle		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard Earle Earle]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thank you Father Brittain … Well done. …. Richard Earle &#039;67]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Father Brittain … Well done. …. Richard Earle &#8217;67</p>
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		By: Curt Gesch		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Curt Gesch]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2020 19:41:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[For some Anglicans (and many other Christians, I think, the real question is whether we are living a sacramental life: if, indeed, we are united to Christ &quot;whenever we eat this bread&quot;.  The light of the world, the water of life, the bread for the world--these are sacramental phrases that do not require theologians or clergy to pronounce in order for one to be surrounded by the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ and be blessed by His presence.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For some Anglicans (and many other Christians, I think, the real question is whether we are living a sacramental life: if, indeed, we are united to Christ &#8220;whenever we eat this bread&#8221;.  The light of the world, the water of life, the bread for the world&#8211;these are sacramental phrases that do not require theologians or clergy to pronounce in order for one to be surrounded by the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ and be blessed by His presence.</p>
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		By: Curt Gesch		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Curt Gesch]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2020 19:36:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://anglicanjournal.com/the-eucharist-and-coming-out-of-lockdown-a-tract-for-these-covid-19-times/#comment-32901&quot;&gt;The Rev. Alexander Pryor&lt;/a&gt;.

Re:  &quot;In a congregational model, there’s little public benefit lost if a private group of like-minded believers cannot gather; it’s an inconvenience, but upsets nothing essential. But, for those parishes whose spiritual, charitable, and practical arms are extended daily to the general public and particularly focused on those vulnerable demographics within the mission field of the parish, the church being closed — really absent — when the exploitative consumeristic marketplace is open is an abandonment of the cure of souls, at least in any historic Anglican sense.&quot;   While agreeing with you, sir about the parishes with spiritual, charitable, and practical arms being extended to the general public, may I suggest that this has nothing, absolutely, nothing to do with a congregational model, a Presbyterian model (not mentioned), an episcopal model.  If these marks of an active parish are missing, there is a lot more wrong than a matter of when, where, and how to serve Eucharist.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://anglicanjournal.com/the-eucharist-and-coming-out-of-lockdown-a-tract-for-these-covid-19-times/#comment-32901">The Rev. Alexander Pryor</a>.</p>
<p>Re:  &#8220;In a congregational model, there’s little public benefit lost if a private group of like-minded believers cannot gather; it’s an inconvenience, but upsets nothing essential. But, for those parishes whose spiritual, charitable, and practical arms are extended daily to the general public and particularly focused on those vulnerable demographics within the mission field of the parish, the church being closed — really absent — when the exploitative consumeristic marketplace is open is an abandonment of the cure of souls, at least in any historic Anglican sense.&#8221;   While agreeing with you, sir about the parishes with spiritual, charitable, and practical arms being extended to the general public, may I suggest that this has nothing, absolutely, nothing to do with a congregational model, a Presbyterian model (not mentioned), an episcopal model.  If these marks of an active parish are missing, there is a lot more wrong than a matter of when, where, and how to serve Eucharist.</p>
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		By: The Rev. Dr. William J. Danaher, Jr.		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The Rev. Dr. William J. Danaher, Jr.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2020 12:26:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Far be for me to judge an article that was written with the worthy intent of helping us negotiate the present pandemic safely and spiritually, but the understanding here of “spiritual communion” is not accurate. From the beginning, the doctrine was instituted for those who had not practiced the usual disciplines (confession, penance) before taking communion. It was therefore a stopgap based upon a breakdown in Christian practice that assumed that the par taker was unworthy to receive the transubstantiated body and blood. Rather than jury rigging a Catholic doctrine, I would suggest a season of “Feasting on the Word of God.” That is to say, a time of evangelism and gospel-centered preaching aimed at conversion.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Far be for me to judge an article that was written with the worthy intent of helping us negotiate the present pandemic safely and spiritually, but the understanding here of “spiritual communion” is not accurate. From the beginning, the doctrine was instituted for those who had not practiced the usual disciplines (confession, penance) before taking communion. It was therefore a stopgap based upon a breakdown in Christian practice that assumed that the par taker was unworthy to receive the transubstantiated body and blood. Rather than jury rigging a Catholic doctrine, I would suggest a season of “Feasting on the Word of God.” That is to say, a time of evangelism and gospel-centered preaching aimed at conversion.</p>
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		By: Father Don Lee, AHC		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Father Don Lee, AHC]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2020 15:58:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Very sound advice and solid Anglican presentation.  Thank you for this and May the Lord Bless you and keep you! Amen]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very sound advice and solid Anglican presentation.  Thank you for this and May the Lord Bless you and keep you! Amen</p>
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		By: The Rev. Alexander Pryor		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The Rev. Alexander Pryor]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2020 15:51:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;churches should open and conduct the celebration of the Eucharist because liquor stores and big-box hardware centres aren’t closed. This position essentially implies that Anglicans should fall in line with the consumer practices of the society in which they are located...&quot;

That statement is well and good if we assume all the issues on the table are inward-focused for those already numbered among the Faithful.  And, to be fair, many parishes live that way; with the sacramental family meal of the Eucharist as the familiar featured special on the menu.

But the question of being &quot;open&quot; (though perhaps not resuming eucharist in familiar ways) is much bigger in those places which continue or which are seeking to restore the historic understanding of &quot;parishes&quot; as mission territories -- villages, towns, and neighbourhoods claimed in the name of God and for whom the incumbent, with the support of the wardens, vestry, and congregation, is the appointed minister of God responsible for all in their cure, regardless of church membership, and perhaps especially for those who don&#039;t realize they need the Church.

In a congregational model, there&#039;s little public benefit lost if a private group of like-minded believers cannot gather; it&#039;s an inconvenience, but upsets nothing essential.  But, for those parishes whose spiritual, charitable, and practical arms are extended daily to the general public and particularly focused on those vulnerable demographics within the mission field of the parish, the church being closed -- really absent -- when the exploitative consumeristic marketplace is open is an abandonment of the cure of souls, at least in any historic Anglican sense.

As the author suggests, I agree that the average person in the average pew actually stands to learn and grow from the experience of losing the familiar Eucharistic rhythms and learning to experience what God provides, as manna in the wilderness.  And, certainly, offering communion only to the healthy -- or any other division --  is far from how communion ought to be.

But, unless churches are nothing more than Eucharistic venues for those who already consider themselves members, there are much larger questions to consider.  The &quot;consumer practices of society&quot; need the counter-balance of Gospel truth and merciful hands ministering to those who are most susceptible to false information, exploitation, addiction, despair, and violence.  Or, as I&#039;ve posted around town and on the church doors: the buildings may be closed, but the church is open.  

Worship may have moved online, but pastoral care, counselling, food security programs, delivery of narcotics for those on daily dispensing orders, daily check-ins for those on suicide or addictions-related safety plans, low-income tax preparation and benefits-application services, home-delivery Sunday School lessons and crafts, delivery of reading materials to elders, delivery of puzzles and groceries to those in isolation, and even the notary public/commissioner of oaths services this parish offers to this remote Northern community -- all in the name of Jesus -- have ramped up rather than cut back during this pandemic, all undergirded by a parish learning to pray the daily office and continuing in the study of scripture via Zoom.  

The faithful will survive the inconvenience of Eucharistic restrictions, and even benefit from learning God&#039;s grace in spiritual communion.  BUT, there are many more vulnerable persons to think about beyond the older persons in the pews for Eucharist... and they, too, are the responsibility of the parish and those with the cure of souls, at least in any historic Anglican sense.  

If a return to &quot;normal&quot; Eucharistic worship needs to wait until Phase 3, we&#039;re in the same position as any sit-down family restaurant.  Yes, we long for things to be as they ought to be -- a family gathered around the table.  But, in the meantime, instead of closing the doors, we have the opportunity to reevaluate and re-jig the menu, and may just re-learn that there&#039;s more to taste and see than the familiar weekly special.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;churches should open and conduct the celebration of the Eucharist because liquor stores and big-box hardware centres aren’t closed. This position essentially implies that Anglicans should fall in line with the consumer practices of the society in which they are located&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>That statement is well and good if we assume all the issues on the table are inward-focused for those already numbered among the Faithful.  And, to be fair, many parishes live that way; with the sacramental family meal of the Eucharist as the familiar featured special on the menu.</p>
<p>But the question of being &#8220;open&#8221; (though perhaps not resuming eucharist in familiar ways) is much bigger in those places which continue or which are seeking to restore the historic understanding of &#8220;parishes&#8221; as mission territories &#8212; villages, towns, and neighbourhoods claimed in the name of God and for whom the incumbent, with the support of the wardens, vestry, and congregation, is the appointed minister of God responsible for all in their cure, regardless of church membership, and perhaps especially for those who don&#8217;t realize they need the Church.</p>
<p>In a congregational model, there&#8217;s little public benefit lost if a private group of like-minded believers cannot gather; it&#8217;s an inconvenience, but upsets nothing essential.  But, for those parishes whose spiritual, charitable, and practical arms are extended daily to the general public and particularly focused on those vulnerable demographics within the mission field of the parish, the church being closed &#8212; really absent &#8212; when the exploitative consumeristic marketplace is open is an abandonment of the cure of souls, at least in any historic Anglican sense.</p>
<p>As the author suggests, I agree that the average person in the average pew actually stands to learn and grow from the experience of losing the familiar Eucharistic rhythms and learning to experience what God provides, as manna in the wilderness.  And, certainly, offering communion only to the healthy &#8212; or any other division &#8212;  is far from how communion ought to be.</p>
<p>But, unless churches are nothing more than Eucharistic venues for those who already consider themselves members, there are much larger questions to consider.  The &#8220;consumer practices of society&#8221; need the counter-balance of Gospel truth and merciful hands ministering to those who are most susceptible to false information, exploitation, addiction, despair, and violence.  Or, as I&#8217;ve posted around town and on the church doors: the buildings may be closed, but the church is open.  </p>
<p>Worship may have moved online, but pastoral care, counselling, food security programs, delivery of narcotics for those on daily dispensing orders, daily check-ins for those on suicide or addictions-related safety plans, low-income tax preparation and benefits-application services, home-delivery Sunday School lessons and crafts, delivery of reading materials to elders, delivery of puzzles and groceries to those in isolation, and even the notary public/commissioner of oaths services this parish offers to this remote Northern community &#8212; all in the name of Jesus &#8212; have ramped up rather than cut back during this pandemic, all undergirded by a parish learning to pray the daily office and continuing in the study of scripture via Zoom.  </p>
<p>The faithful will survive the inconvenience of Eucharistic restrictions, and even benefit from learning God&#8217;s grace in spiritual communion.  BUT, there are many more vulnerable persons to think about beyond the older persons in the pews for Eucharist&#8230; and they, too, are the responsibility of the parish and those with the cure of souls, at least in any historic Anglican sense.  </p>
<p>If a return to &#8220;normal&#8221; Eucharistic worship needs to wait until Phase 3, we&#8217;re in the same position as any sit-down family restaurant.  Yes, we long for things to be as they ought to be &#8212; a family gathered around the table.  But, in the meantime, instead of closing the doors, we have the opportunity to reevaluate and re-jig the menu, and may just re-learn that there&#8217;s more to taste and see than the familiar weekly special.</p>
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		By: Canon Rod Gillis (ret'd)		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Canon Rod Gillis (ret'd)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2020 15:44:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Chris Brittain&#039;s piece provides a good theological-pastoral reflection on the suspension of public eucharist, grief, and the nature of Christian community. However, the sweep of Brittain&#039;s analysis glosses over some important distinctions. He states &quot;...most Anglican churches across the globe have imposed a moratorium on celebrating the Eucharist.&quot; Actually what is under moratorium is &#039;public&#039; celebration.  Eucharist  under lockdown continues to be celebrated and streamed in many places in The Communion. Nova Scotia is one such Canadian  jurisdiction. Archbishop Welby celebrated on live stream Easter Day from his Lambeth kitchen-even though he was policy lead in the now controversial decision of  English Bishops (see Brittain&#039;s embedded link &#039;going private&#039;) to direct clergy to stay out of their churches.  (Ontario bishops have asked for a &#039;fast&#039;---perhaps technically lawful, but open to criticism on the bais that it is authoritarian and lacking in theological sensitivity.) 

Eucharist is mandated by Christ (&quot; given for you...in remembrance of me&quot;).  Remarkably, in referencing I Cor. Brittain passes over St. Paul&#039;s account of handing over the tradition, &quot; Every time you eat this bread and drink this cup you proclaim the death of the Lord, until he comes.&quot; ( 23-26, REB). Biblical scholar  Joachim Jeremias long ago noted the importance of remembrance before God of Jesus&#039; work ( Eucharistic Words of Jesus) .  Ecumenically, The Roman Catholic Church notes the importance of priests celebrating the Eucharist even if there are only a few others of the faithful present (VII: Presbyterorum Ordinis III, 13). The Canadian BCP in the prohibitive rubric on page 67 tacitly recognizes the meaningfulness of a Eucharist with only one person present to communicate. 

Brittain is certainly insightful in helping the reader discern community issues around the resumption of public worship during lockdown--even if his reference to St. Paul and congregational class differences is not the best analogy. We must be responsible and exemplary as an institution entrusted with bearing the gospel. However, there are further questions about what constitutes optimal community. Local churches (the article is very urban cognizant) have the capability of doing that in consultation with public health.  I have been cheered knowing that faithful priests continue to celebrate under lockdown on our behalf. My age cohort puts me in a Covid risk category. Notwithstanding, when public eucharist resumes, under whatever circumstances,  I will be cheered knowing that a representative community is gathering  to proclaim Christ&#039;s death until he comes to establish perfect community.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris Brittain&#8217;s piece provides a good theological-pastoral reflection on the suspension of public eucharist, grief, and the nature of Christian community. However, the sweep of Brittain&#8217;s analysis glosses over some important distinctions. He states &#8220;&#8230;most Anglican churches across the globe have imposed a moratorium on celebrating the Eucharist.&#8221; Actually what is under moratorium is &#8216;public&#8217; celebration.  Eucharist  under lockdown continues to be celebrated and streamed in many places in The Communion. Nova Scotia is one such Canadian  jurisdiction. Archbishop Welby celebrated on live stream Easter Day from his Lambeth kitchen-even though he was policy lead in the now controversial decision of  English Bishops (see Brittain&#8217;s embedded link &#8216;going private&#8217;) to direct clergy to stay out of their churches.  (Ontario bishops have asked for a &#8216;fast&#8217;&#8212;perhaps technically lawful, but open to criticism on the bais that it is authoritarian and lacking in theological sensitivity.) </p>
<p>Eucharist is mandated by Christ (&#8221; given for you&#8230;in remembrance of me&#8221;).  Remarkably, in referencing I Cor. Brittain passes over St. Paul&#8217;s account of handing over the tradition, &#8221; Every time you eat this bread and drink this cup you proclaim the death of the Lord, until he comes.&#8221; ( 23-26, REB). Biblical scholar  Joachim Jeremias long ago noted the importance of remembrance before God of Jesus&#8217; work ( Eucharistic Words of Jesus) .  Ecumenically, The Roman Catholic Church notes the importance of priests celebrating the Eucharist even if there are only a few others of the faithful present (VII: Presbyterorum Ordinis III, 13). The Canadian BCP in the prohibitive rubric on page 67 tacitly recognizes the meaningfulness of a Eucharist with only one person present to communicate. </p>
<p>Brittain is certainly insightful in helping the reader discern community issues around the resumption of public worship during lockdown&#8211;even if his reference to St. Paul and congregational class differences is not the best analogy. We must be responsible and exemplary as an institution entrusted with bearing the gospel. However, there are further questions about what constitutes optimal community. Local churches (the article is very urban cognizant) have the capability of doing that in consultation with public health.  I have been cheered knowing that faithful priests continue to celebrate under lockdown on our behalf. My age cohort puts me in a Covid risk category. Notwithstanding, when public eucharist resumes, under whatever circumstances,  I will be cheered knowing that a representative community is gathering  to proclaim Christ&#8217;s death until he comes to establish perfect community.</p>
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		By: Rev Dr Thomas Wilson		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rev Dr Thomas Wilson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2020 07:03:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hello, I disagree with Dr Brittan’s assumption that only older and more vulnerable attend using public transport. My experience is the direct opposite, it is often the young who travel by public transportation. Dr Brittan also does not even touch on the nature of the host, as being the body and blood of Christ and if they are, why would our loving God let his body hurt his followers? Yes, social distancing, hand sanitizer stations, face masks, etc are vital, but to say churches should not reopen is incorrect in my opinion. Regards,]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello, I disagree with Dr Brittan’s assumption that only older and more vulnerable attend using public transport. My experience is the direct opposite, it is often the young who travel by public transportation. Dr Brittan also does not even touch on the nature of the host, as being the body and blood of Christ and if they are, why would our loving God let his body hurt his followers? Yes, social distancing, hand sanitizer stations, face masks, etc are vital, but to say churches should not reopen is incorrect in my opinion. Regards,</p>
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