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		By: Curt Gesch		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thank you, Mr. Laidlaw, for your comments.   Something not perhaps unrelated:  The Anglican Church of Canada and the various diocese structures need, in my opinion, an ombudsman (ombudsperson?).  The reasons?   If the rector runs the meetings and he has taken a vow of obedience to the bishop, the bishop is a sort of final law in the diocese, and the chancellor &quot;works for the bishop,&quot; then how do people even work towards changing structures?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you, Mr. Laidlaw, for your comments.   Something not perhaps unrelated:  The Anglican Church of Canada and the various diocese structures need, in my opinion, an ombudsman (ombudsperson?).  The reasons?   If the rector runs the meetings and he has taken a vow of obedience to the bishop, the bishop is a sort of final law in the diocese, and the chancellor &#8220;works for the bishop,&#8221; then how do people even work towards changing structures?</p>
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		By: John A Laidlaw		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[Jeffrey: A very interesting way of looking at our councils and committees. Have you tried (as I&#039;m doing, in the back of my mind, even as I write this) pairing this insight up with Northcote Parkinson&#039;s  Essays on Administration? I&#039;ve always found them all the more trenchant in their humorous construction, rather like AP Herbert&#039;s fictitious cases in Uncommon Law and others of his. Both writers treat of very serious problems with humor - and make their point memorably, without booting their reader in the butt.
What&#039;s going through my head is Parkinson&#039;s claim that ALL committees tend to lapse into sterility, largely because the people that wind up on the mare very seldom original thinkers, but rather rule-followers, and they tend to recruit like members,  Parkinson even gives us a reason for this, in that no-body - even the most divergent thinker - will appoint folk who &quot;rock the boat&quot;. He&#039;ll only appoint those who are more rule-bound than he is, so that, eventually, the committee dissolves into a body that can only function as self-perpetuating, and will have to be stripped of authority until such time as it becomes so inanimate that it expires peacefully. 
How to correct this was a matter he didn&#039;t delve into, for correction can come in two ways - one through expiry, and the other when the meta-committee becomes so blind that it cannot see that someone is actually like a time-bomb in the organisation, and it appoints this person, expecting one thing, and discovering, to its horror that he is quite unlike that.
Such a person arrived in the Roman Catholic world in John XXIII. Possibly the same will be true in John Paul II, or in the current Pope - only time will tell. But I do think we need such a person or persons in the Anglican Communion,, among our Lutheran colleagues - in fact, throughout the Church. Truly, God moves in mysterious ways, His wonders to perform!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeffrey: A very interesting way of looking at our councils and committees. Have you tried (as I&#8217;m doing, in the back of my mind, even as I write this) pairing this insight up with Northcote Parkinson&#8217;s  Essays on Administration? I&#8217;ve always found them all the more trenchant in their humorous construction, rather like AP Herbert&#8217;s fictitious cases in Uncommon Law and others of his. Both writers treat of very serious problems with humor &#8211; and make their point memorably, without booting their reader in the butt.<br />
What&#8217;s going through my head is Parkinson&#8217;s claim that ALL committees tend to lapse into sterility, largely because the people that wind up on the mare very seldom original thinkers, but rather rule-followers, and they tend to recruit like members,  Parkinson even gives us a reason for this, in that no-body &#8211; even the most divergent thinker &#8211; will appoint folk who &#8220;rock the boat&#8221;. He&#8217;ll only appoint those who are more rule-bound than he is, so that, eventually, the committee dissolves into a body that can only function as self-perpetuating, and will have to be stripped of authority until such time as it becomes so inanimate that it expires peacefully.<br />
How to correct this was a matter he didn&#8217;t delve into, for correction can come in two ways &#8211; one through expiry, and the other when the meta-committee becomes so blind that it cannot see that someone is actually like a time-bomb in the organisation, and it appoints this person, expecting one thing, and discovering, to its horror that he is quite unlike that.<br />
Such a person arrived in the Roman Catholic world in John XXIII. Possibly the same will be true in John Paul II, or in the current Pope &#8211; only time will tell. But I do think we need such a person or persons in the Anglican Communion,, among our Lutheran colleagues &#8211; in fact, throughout the Church. Truly, God moves in mysterious ways, His wonders to perform!</p>
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