Comments on: On the marriage canon

By: Adenike

Adenike — Mon, 15 Jul 2019 21:10:25 +0000

In reply to Eric Eves. Thank you Eric Eves

By: Wim Hunfeld

Wim Hunfeld — Fri, 12 Jul 2019 14:50:16 +0000

Well written,Bishop MacDonald

By: Eric Eves

Eric Eves — Thu, 04 Jul 2019 23:52:19 +0000

It appears to me Scripture has no meaning. We can twist to whatever suits our fancy. If the definition of marriage is for the procreation of children between a man and a wife, i.e. a male and a female, how then can a same sex marriage produce the same results? I have no objection if same sex couples want to co-habitat, but lets say what it is, a union. Certainly children can be brought into the union by other methods and no doubt loved. But what is next? Will salvation be at a price rather than faith? Was the first miracle of Jesus, turning the water into wine, between whom? I think if we keep watering down the tenets of our faith we will become a ship of fools!

By: Kor Kits

Kor Kits — Fri, 21 Jun 2019 19:50:09 +0000

Should we not be looking/listening very very carefully to what “God through His Word” says concerning same-sex marriages and the practice of homosexuality? And then include ALL sinners in our daily lives and help bear each others sins? In so doing we will fulfill the law of Christ; love one another as He loves us.

By: Dave Addison

Dave Addison — Thu, 20 Jun 2019 12:23:01 +0000

In reply to David Kellett. Very, very well expressed. Thank you for sharing your insights and Biblical perspective.

By: Curt Gesch

Curt Gesch — Tue, 18 Jun 2019 13:49:40 +0000

In a church that considers rubrics to have nearly the authority of scripture, I hesitate to wax profoundly about what scripture says or doesn’t say about the marriage canon. I think we could well clean our own house of questionable traditions; indigenous people are examining their traditions in a way that can only benefit the rest of the church if it will but listen.

By: Kor Kits

Kor Kits — Tue, 18 Jun 2019 03:44:56 +0000

But what does God (through his Word) say about the practice of homosexuality? Look at Leviticus 18:22 or Romans 1: 26,27 and also 1 Corinthians 6: 9,10,11. And then look at what we as fellow Christians should do as told in Galatians 6: 1,2. Include ALL sinners in our daily lives and bear each others burdens of sin!.

By: David Kellett

David Kellett — Tue, 18 Jun 2019 00:32:41 +0000

I appreciate Bishop MacDonald having the courage to publicly say that a key element in indigenous understanding of Christian marriage, is the duality of the sexes, that a male and a female come together in a life long project.
I am a 70 year old, retired Anglican priest. I am disgusted with how the Council of General Synod have handled this issue over the last 20 years. There is so much politics going on. By politics, I mean “identity politics”. I first heard that phrase back around 2002, on CBC radio. A Harvard professor was giving a talk about “the Rights Revolution”. Michael Ignatief told us, this new way of thinking, that minority groups have “rights”, these groups want to be respected for having a different, distinct identity, yet also use the concept of “rights” to be considered equal with other citizens. So, “Rights” thinking has entered the Anglican Church. now, in 2015, there was a 60 page report. It was called the Report of the Commission on the Marriage Canon. It was a rushed document with sloppy thinking. The Report fails to describe or understand the theological issues, or the philosophic concepts being used in the present controversy. In particular, the Report fails to define clearly what a sacrament is. So, are sacraments Rights? Is using Rights language a good way to understand a Christian sacrament? It is these issues our leaders and thinkers need to sort out. I argue, then, that secular political concepts have entered the high councils of the Church, and are causing confusion. Is Baptism a right? If this is so, is there any faith required, when such a person seeks Baptism? I suggest, that activist liberal Anglicans do not have an honest theology of the Church, what a Christian Church is in these modern times. Let me finish with a quote from a Lutheran pastor, written in 1937 in pre-war Germany: “Cheap grace is the deadly enemy of our Church. We are fighting today for costly grace.” D. Bonhoeffer, the Cost of Discipleship.

By: jeffery stanley

jeffery stanley — Mon, 17 Jun 2019 23:25:12 +0000

Interesting read; I have to say in my understanding of Nisga’a culture, we had 3 unique societies under 1 nation. Firstly, the masculine society, this was comprised of men who did all the hunting, fishing, cutting down of trees, building of long houses, the creation of masks and rattles etc. then we had the feminine society, a group comprised of women who preserved the hunt, the fish, made clothing, weaved cedar baskets, kept the long house clean, caring of children.. and then we had those who identified themselves as people with 2 spirits, people who could see into both worlds. we didn’t shun them, we knew they had special powers, and so they were treated with a lot of respect. However; they were not permitted to marry one another. This is why we don’t have a marriage feast for same-sex couples. Those who possessed two spirits, were treated as though they were shaman’s; their love could heal sickness.

By: Douglas Tutty

Douglas Tutty — Mon, 17 Jun 2019 21:40:52 +0000

Since the Canon will _allow_ but not _mandate_ same-sex marriage, why would first-nations’ delegates vote against the change if it won’t impact them? How does their traditional (pre-Christian) understanding of marriage have any bearing on what the Anglican Church of Canada should allow or not vis-a-vis marriage?