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		By: Tony Houghton		</title>
		<link>https://anglicanjournal.com/hiltz-expects-sanctions-canadian-church-approves-sex-marriage/#comment-2718</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tony Houghton]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Oct 2017 23:41:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot; the faithful who follow the trajectory of Jesus’s way. &quot;Excuse me, Jesus never went against or violated Gods law &quot;Jesus explained, &quot;My food is to do the will of Him who sent Me and to finish His work..&quot;, &quot;Truly, truly, I tell you, the Son can do nothing by Himself, unless He sees the Father doing it. For whatever the Father does, the Son also does.&quot; The Godhead does not approve of homosexual behavior. Whose justice ?,  certainly not Gods ,His justice lie within His law. So the question remain , who are we following ,the world or God,not the god of our imagination but the God who is declared in the pages of the bible .]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8221; the faithful who follow the trajectory of Jesus’s way. &#8220;Excuse me, Jesus never went against or violated Gods law &#8220;Jesus explained, &#8220;My food is to do the will of Him who sent Me and to finish His work..&#8221;, &#8220;Truly, truly, I tell you, the Son can do nothing by Himself, unless He sees the Father doing it. For whatever the Father does, the Son also does.&#8221; The Godhead does not approve of homosexual behavior. Whose justice ?,  certainly not Gods ,His justice lie within His law. So the question remain , who are we following ,the world or God,not the god of our imagination but the God who is declared in the pages of the bible .</p>
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		By: dale sparkes		</title>
		<link>https://anglicanjournal.com/hiltz-expects-sanctions-canadian-church-approves-sex-marriage/#comment-2711</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dale sparkes]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Oct 2017 21:53:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It seems that within the Anglican Communion two or three, or more are gathering in His name and He is with them and they are following the Advocate. The reality that the Primate foresees should not deter the faithful who follow the trajectory of Jesus&#039;s way.  The courage of TEC and the Scottish Church to carry the light of Justice within a Church that had largely conformed to upholding the establishment elements of this world  so as to be recognized and have power (House of Lords, state church, etc.)  is to be commended.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems that within the Anglican Communion two or three, or more are gathering in His name and He is with them and they are following the Advocate. The reality that the Primate foresees should not deter the faithful who follow the trajectory of Jesus&#8217;s way.  The courage of TEC and the Scottish Church to carry the light of Justice within a Church that had largely conformed to upholding the establishment elements of this world  so as to be recognized and have power (House of Lords, state church, etc.)  is to be commended.</p>
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		By: Tony Houghton		</title>
		<link>https://anglicanjournal.com/hiltz-expects-sanctions-canadian-church-approves-sex-marriage/#comment-2703</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tony Houghton]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Oct 2017 15:36:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;Such may be Canada’s small price to pay for standing up for justice and reform&quot; The question is ,whose justice and reform? We are called not to be conformed to this world not conformed. I agree that it is sort of a slap on the wrist and a good finger wagging , but nothing will come of it, as the spirit said to the church in Ephesus &quot;... you have abandoned the love you had at first . Remember from where you have fallen, repent.....&quot; Y Yes the church need reformation it needs to return to the truth it once embraced but not has cast aside to embrace the mores of the world . We have to ask the question ,who do we serve ?, we serve that which we follow and right now it is the world.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Such may be Canada’s small price to pay for standing up for justice and reform&#8221; The question is ,whose justice and reform? We are called not to be conformed to this world not conformed. I agree that it is sort of a slap on the wrist and a good finger wagging , but nothing will come of it, as the spirit said to the church in Ephesus &#8220;&#8230; you have abandoned the love you had at first . Remember from where you have fallen, repent&#8230;..&#8221; Y Yes the church need reformation it needs to return to the truth it once embraced but not has cast aside to embrace the mores of the world . We have to ask the question ,who do we serve ?, we serve that which we follow and right now it is the world.</p>
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		By: Rod Gillis		</title>
		<link>https://anglicanjournal.com/hiltz-expects-sanctions-canadian-church-approves-sex-marriage/#comment-2697</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rod Gillis]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Oct 2017 13:03:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Well, just because one ends up in the penalty box does not mean one is out of the game or out of the league. The consequences seem something of a symbolic slap on the wrist, no?  Such may be Canada&#039;s small price to pay for standing up for justice and reform. The &quot;consequences&quot; certainly pale by comparison to the terrible consequences that members of the GBLT community suffer as the result of organized religion. 

As the article above notes, The Primate in his reflection writes: &quot;I sometimes wonder if The Meeting of the Primates has in fact moved definitively beyond what Archbishop Donald Coggan intended it to be...&quot;.  This is an important observation. One of the best ways to curtail the development of Primates&#039; gatherings into a kind of Anglican &quot;curia&quot; is for Churches like Canada to continue to make decisions  grounded in their synodical polity---one which includes not just bishops but other clerical orders and laity in the decision making.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, just because one ends up in the penalty box does not mean one is out of the game or out of the league. The consequences seem something of a symbolic slap on the wrist, no?  Such may be Canada&#8217;s small price to pay for standing up for justice and reform. The &#8220;consequences&#8221; certainly pale by comparison to the terrible consequences that members of the GBLT community suffer as the result of organized religion. </p>
<p>As the article above notes, The Primate in his reflection writes: &#8220;I sometimes wonder if The Meeting of the Primates has in fact moved definitively beyond what Archbishop Donald Coggan intended it to be&#8230;&#8221;.  This is an important observation. One of the best ways to curtail the development of Primates&#8217; gatherings into a kind of Anglican &#8220;curia&#8221; is for Churches like Canada to continue to make decisions  grounded in their synodical polity&#8212;one which includes not just bishops but other clerical orders and laity in the decision making.</p>
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		By: Tom Burpee, Montreal		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tom Burpee, Montreal]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Oct 2017 12:01:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The comments of our Canadian Primate on the consequences of our decision to adopt a canon to recognize same sex marriage make so much sense to me. They are measured and  thoughtful . He makes me proud of his leadership.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The comments of our Canadian Primate on the consequences of our decision to adopt a canon to recognize same sex marriage make so much sense to me. They are measured and  thoughtful . He makes me proud of his leadership.</p>
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		By: John C. Smith		</title>
		<link>https://anglicanjournal.com/hiltz-expects-sanctions-canadian-church-approves-sex-marriage/#comment-2564</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John C. Smith]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Oct 2017 22:24:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The Primates are not &quot;The Curia&quot; of the Anglican Communion and have no authority to dictate to autonomous Provinces. I do not believe a group of hierarchal &quot;Princes of the Church&quot; can override the long-standing Anglican ethos of autonomy, as much as some of the Primates like to think they can. As Archbishop Hiltz observed the Primates meeting were established to provide a forum for consultation and mutual support.   As a life-long Anglican I am quite prepared to walk with my brothers and sister in TEC and Scottish Episcopal Church (and others), while supporting those who disagree and have different opinions and interpretation of scripture and Anglican practices.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Primates are not &#8220;The Curia&#8221; of the Anglican Communion and have no authority to dictate to autonomous Provinces. I do not believe a group of hierarchal &#8220;Princes of the Church&#8221; can override the long-standing Anglican ethos of autonomy, as much as some of the Primates like to think they can. As Archbishop Hiltz observed the Primates meeting were established to provide a forum for consultation and mutual support.   As a life-long Anglican I am quite prepared to walk with my brothers and sister in TEC and Scottish Episcopal Church (and others), while supporting those who disagree and have different opinions and interpretation of scripture and Anglican practices.</p>
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