Comments on: Hiltz calls for prayers before Primates’ Meeting https://anglicanjournal.com/hiltz-calls-prayers-primates-meeting/ National News from the Anglican Church of Canada Tue, 03 Oct 2017 22:25:01 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.9.4 By: The Very Rev. Jason Haggstrom https://anglicanjournal.com/hiltz-calls-prayers-primates-meeting/#comment-2161 Tue, 03 Oct 2017 22:25:01 +0000 http://anglicanjournal.com/?p=151174#comment-2161 In reply to John C. Smith.

You need to bring your brain and your heart inside, John. The truth and revelation of Scripture are not antithetical to reason and thought,they are above it. We as Christians are called to live in the light of the revelation of Scripture, not pick and choose what we will believe and make the practice of religion a hodge-podge. Faith is not a buffet table.

]]> By: Tony Houghton https://anglicanjournal.com/hiltz-calls-prayers-primates-meeting/#comment-1945 Wed, 27 Sep 2017 19:11:11 +0000 http://anglicanjournal.com/?p=151174#comment-1945 In reply to John C. Smith.

Again ,What is your “christian faith” based on ? All we know about Jesus and why He came is found in the pages of the Old and New Testament or have you had a revelation that supersedes what has been given in the past. There are different types of laws in the Old testament ,civil ,ceremonial, moral . After Christs dead and resurrection the first two had run their course ,and now we are still bound by the moral law as stated in article 7 of the 39 articles of the anglican church. On what authority or foundation do you base your “Christian “faith? “That’s why the church is failing to resonate with so many people” the church is failing because it has abandon the faith that was once for all delivered to the saints. and has adopted the mores of this world and the world sees no difference in the two and says “what’s the point. Even God will abandon such a church and has. “‘This people honors me with their lips,but their heart is far from me;in vain do they worship me, teaching as doctrines the commandments of men”

]]> By: John C. Smith https://anglicanjournal.com/hiltz-calls-prayers-primates-meeting/#comment-1936 Wed, 27 Sep 2017 16:38:23 +0000 http://anglicanjournal.com/?p=151174#comment-1936 Tony: It still doesn’t answer the question. Merely avoids it. That’s why the church is failing to resonate with so many people. We can’t check our brains at the door and defend it on the basis of factual error and superstition.

]]> By: Tony Houghton https://anglicanjournal.com/hiltz-calls-prayers-primates-meeting/#comment-1933 Wed, 27 Sep 2017 15:11:09 +0000 http://anglicanjournal.com/?p=151174#comment-1933 In reply to Tony Houghton.

On what truth do you build you faith ? How do you discern truth? For the questions you ask ,see 39 articles of faith #7

]]> By: John C. Smith https://anglicanjournal.com/hiltz-calls-prayers-primates-meeting/#comment-1932 Wed, 27 Sep 2017 14:46:53 +0000 http://anglicanjournal.com/?p=151174#comment-1932 In reply to Tony Houghton.

Which of God’s words do you accept as true? Women be silent in the church? Keep the Sabbath? Don’t wear clothes of mixed material? Stone blasphemers? Have many wives? and so on. It is not a simple decision. When Jesus said “Everyone who belongs to the truth listens to my voice.” Pilate responded, “What is truth?” ( John 18:38). It seems I am only asking a simple question that has been around for a long time.

]]> By: Tony Houghton https://anglicanjournal.com/hiltz-calls-prayers-primates-meeting/#comment-1928 Wed, 27 Sep 2017 13:54:52 +0000 http://anglicanjournal.com/?p=151174#comment-1928 In reply to John C. Smith.

Gods word is truth and idles not change.

]]> By: John C. Smith https://anglicanjournal.com/hiltz-calls-prayers-primates-meeting/#comment-1913 Tue, 26 Sep 2017 22:19:15 +0000 http://anglicanjournal.com/?p=151174#comment-1913 In reply to Tony Houghton.

What is truth???

]]> By: Tony Houghton https://anglicanjournal.com/hiltz-calls-prayers-primates-meeting/#comment-1902 Tue, 26 Sep 2017 18:10:24 +0000 http://anglicanjournal.com/?p=151174#comment-1902 In reply to John C. Smith.

Reforming church ,that is, bring the church more in line with Gods word and truth, not violating it. We are called to conform to Gods truth not the church to the world perspective of truth.

]]> By: Duleep Jesudian https://anglicanjournal.com/hiltz-calls-prayers-primates-meeting/#comment-1900 Tue, 26 Sep 2017 17:34:00 +0000 http://anglicanjournal.com/?p=151174#comment-1900 Why bring a divisive topic at all to the meeting. The scripture is clear on the topic & CHRIST specially states that marriage is between men & women – the human body cannot survive as a species if it was so. To bring about changes because a vocal minority wishes it will cause a permanent division of the whole body and bring about an organisation with no rules except the fashionably new ones, with no rules except those of the majority.

]]> By: John C. Smith https://anglicanjournal.com/hiltz-calls-prayers-primates-meeting/#comment-1897 Tue, 26 Sep 2017 16:55:13 +0000 http://anglicanjournal.com/?p=151174#comment-1897 My understanding of Anglican polity is that each Province has the right to discern, with the guidance of the Holy Spirit, what are appropriate interpretations of Scripture as they apply to each culture and age. This means incorporating the best biblical and theological scholarship as we move forward. To me Anglicanism has always been a reforming church and is cognizant of the fact that God’s revelation is not static but a dynamic living breath of pure wisdom. For those Provinces that dispute our theological positions it is their right to do so, and they can continue to practice their particular brand of faith as they see fit I can accept the diversity of understandings, but we are not a centrally governed church with an imperial authoritarian hierarchy. Primates are no more than individual representatives of the political and cultural practices of their own National Church.

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