Hello Philip,
I have not seen anything anywhere in the Holy Bible that gives any indication that we should do anything through a government. Nor that we are to try to get a government to do anything. This idea that we Christians, either individually or as a Church, are to lobby governments is unbiblical.

Unless there is personal conversion heart will not be changed ,governments will not be changed, that is why Paul did not seek to change government policies but the hearts of men. Maybe the church should lead by example . Too long the church has pushed off on the government things that God has called the church to do.

Rev. Steve Bailey,
Please elaborate just exactly what in my post is rubbish and ignorant?
When someone calls upon and/or tries to influence a government to do or to stop doing something it is lobbying. That is what lobbying is. And that is exactly what Ottawa Bishop John Chapman is doing. And that Bishop Chapman is calling for more government spending is left wing politics. So to me the remarks of Bishop Chapman is exactly and deliberately left wing politicking.

As I concluded in my original post it is “Time for the Anglican Church of Canada to get out of politics and get back to preaching the Christian Gospel.”

In response to your challenge please know that I am actively involved in charitable and volunteer work. And as our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ has taught I do not brag nor boast about these things. God sees what I do and that is enough. No other recognition is sought nor desired.

Edit of one of my sentences. Should read
“And calling upon a government to do something is lobbying. And what Bishop Chapman is lobbying for is left wing policies (more government hand-outs through giving away more and more money) and certainly not right wing policies (hand-ups through education and job skills training).” Note the change of “certainly the right wing” to “certainly not right wing”.

It is a Faithful thing to try to be like the good Samaritan, and as Christians we should. If you were to actually read this parable you would see that never was there ever a thought from the good Samaritan to ask or require anyone else to do anything. But this is not what Ottawa Bishop John Chapman is doing. In fact he is clearly and deliberately calling upon the government to do something. And calling upon a government to do something is lobbying. And what Bishop Chapman is lobbying for is left wing policies (more government hand-outs through giving away more and more money) and certainly the right wing policies (hand-ups through education and job skills training). So for me to label this as left wing politics is not rubbish but is completely accurate. It is not ignorance but is an conclusion founded upon informed observations.

For you to mix the work of individuals and charities with a call for a greater amount of government left wing policies is an statement of confusion.

Maybe we should be doing what Paul did ,he didn’t lobby the government or their agencies to change their policies but sought to change mens hearts. The church more and more has become a lobby group for left wing causes. When was the last time you saw the national church stand up against abortion for instance, never. But have a drop of oil fall on the ground and they’re there with placard demanding the the government do something to stop the flow of oil ,as they drive away in their SUV’s. We are called to preach the gospel ,in season and out of season, as Paul said “For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ and him crucified.” We have lost that,I wonder if those in the church if pushed could accurately proclaim what exactly the gospel is and if so ,…do they believe it.

The problem is not that governments have failed to address anything. The problem is the sense of entitlement that this left wing politics embeds in people that leads them to think that they can take and take and take while contributing nothing.

Time for the Anglican Church of Canada to get out of politics and get back to preaching the Christian Gospel.