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		By: Dr Jenny Te Paa Daniel		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dr Jenny Te Paa Daniel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2019 09:44:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[E toku rangatira - thank you for these salutary and courageous words - you echo my own sentiments so closely, you intuit also my deepest faith based yearnings for our ecclesial household to become that which Jesus modeled in his own ministry. Arohanui - Jenny.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>E toku rangatira &#8211; thank you for these salutary and courageous words &#8211; you echo my own sentiments so closely, you intuit also my deepest faith based yearnings for our ecclesial household to become that which Jesus modeled in his own ministry. Arohanui &#8211; Jenny.</p>
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		By: Bonnie Belknap		</title>
		<link>https://anglicanjournal.com/acknowledging-the-painful-errors-of-our-past-2/#comment-15177</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bonnie Belknap]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Feb 2019 23:57:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I think your piece is very timely.  As a Christian who has been both Catholic and Episcopalian, I see many similarities in both faith groups as to the institutionalization of Jesus&#039;s message. It spreads into many areas of pastoral care.

 One area of which I have become acutely aware is in the area of psychiatric disabilities. I do not know about the Anglican tradition, but I suspect it is the same. There is a policy in both denominations to shunt this population of parishioners to the &quot;professionals.&quot; Of course, clinical care is often needed. But it should only ever be an adjunct, not a substitute for spiritual support. The message is, &quot;you&#039;re crazy, please go.&quot; The institutions cannot seem to wrap their brains around the fact that it is precisely during times of crisis that this group needs spiritual counseling and support from clergy and fellow Christians alike.

Part of this is the increasing secularization of the calling of the clergy. It seems to be viewed as a job like any other. In fact, for a true disciple, lay or clergy, there is always sacrifice when following Jesus. But the churches continue to error by identifying with the state and the world. Whether it is colonialism, racism, worldly treatment of the poor and other marginalized groups such as those with psychiatric disabilities, they just conform. Jesus identified &quot;the Prince of this world&quot; and when we conform to the world we conform to the Prince of this world. We need to continue to prophetically challenge this.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think your piece is very timely.  As a Christian who has been both Catholic and Episcopalian, I see many similarities in both faith groups as to the institutionalization of Jesus&#8217;s message. It spreads into many areas of pastoral care.</p>
<p> One area of which I have become acutely aware is in the area of psychiatric disabilities. I do not know about the Anglican tradition, but I suspect it is the same. There is a policy in both denominations to shunt this population of parishioners to the &#8220;professionals.&#8221; Of course, clinical care is often needed. But it should only ever be an adjunct, not a substitute for spiritual support. The message is, &#8220;you&#8217;re crazy, please go.&#8221; The institutions cannot seem to wrap their brains around the fact that it is precisely during times of crisis that this group needs spiritual counseling and support from clergy and fellow Christians alike.</p>
<p>Part of this is the increasing secularization of the calling of the clergy. It seems to be viewed as a job like any other. In fact, for a true disciple, lay or clergy, there is always sacrifice when following Jesus. But the churches continue to error by identifying with the state and the world. Whether it is colonialism, racism, worldly treatment of the poor and other marginalized groups such as those with psychiatric disabilities, they just conform. Jesus identified &#8220;the Prince of this world&#8221; and when we conform to the world we conform to the Prince of this world. We need to continue to prophetically challenge this.</p>
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		By: Duleep Jesudian		</title>
		<link>https://anglicanjournal.com/acknowledging-the-painful-errors-of-our-past-2/#comment-15129</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Duleep Jesudian]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2019 19:57:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[May be we have to  read the letter of St 





























We have to read the letter of St James to the churches to what is Christianity. It is also about righteous living to love the sinner but not approving his way of life. The Church seems to have mixed up both - CHRIST said to the women caught in adultry to go &#038; sin no more we have to bring them to their sense of sin..]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>May be we have to  read the letter of St </p>
<p>We have to read the letter of St James to the churches to what is Christianity. It is also about righteous living to love the sinner but not approving his way of life. The Church seems to have mixed up both &#8211; CHRIST said to the women caught in adultry to go &amp; sin no more we have to bring them to their sense of sin..</p>
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		By: Curt Gesch		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Curt Gesch]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2019 14:49:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I am grateful to Mary Louise Meadow for her comments and analysis in sentences two and three of her comment.  I believe that painful as that process may be, the self-examination is necessary if we are to flourish as an Anglican communion.  The way I see it there is a confusion between authority and power which leads to a type of dependency in the congregations.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am grateful to Mary Louise Meadow for her comments and analysis in sentences two and three of her comment.  I believe that painful as that process may be, the self-examination is necessary if we are to flourish as an Anglican communion.  The way I see it there is a confusion between authority and power which leads to a type of dependency in the congregations.</p>
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		By: Mary Louise Meadow		</title>
		<link>https://anglicanjournal.com/acknowledging-the-painful-errors-of-our-past-2/#comment-15104</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mary Louise Meadow]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2019 20:41:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I am so grateful for your candour and clarity, Bishop MacDonald.  This is a prophetic call to our ecclesial leaders to examine the structures and protocols, of our governance, as well  traditions and assumptions in the conduct of our liturgies that speak to entitlement rather than engaging  one another with reverence,  dignity, and respect as bearers of the Image of God.   The more we focus on symbolic power over others in our community,  the less authentic we become as followers of the teachings of Jesus.  The gift of your essay gives credence to my feelings that our Indigenous and colonized sisters and brothers bear gifts of integrity and insight making us more fully human, if only we pause to pay attention to them.  
As for the comments of the above response to Harari, let me remind its author that the glory of God is the human person, fully alive!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am so grateful for your candour and clarity, Bishop MacDonald.  This is a prophetic call to our ecclesial leaders to examine the structures and protocols, of our governance, as well  traditions and assumptions in the conduct of our liturgies that speak to entitlement rather than engaging  one another with reverence,  dignity, and respect as bearers of the Image of God.   The more we focus on symbolic power over others in our community,  the less authentic we become as followers of the teachings of Jesus.  The gift of your essay gives credence to my feelings that our Indigenous and colonized sisters and brothers bear gifts of integrity and insight making us more fully human, if only we pause to pay attention to them.<br />
As for the comments of the above response to Harari, let me remind its author that the glory of God is the human person, fully alive!</p>
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		By: Tony Houghton		</title>
		<link>https://anglicanjournal.com/acknowledging-the-painful-errors-of-our-past-2/#comment-15078</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tony Houghton]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2019 15:36:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Yuval Noah Harari ? Why would you study a book by an atheist to try to uncover the main thing ,he hasn’t figured it out yet otherwise  he would be a Christian now. There are many ,many Christian authors that would be more likely to discover the “main thing” , authors like John Storting,JI Packer ,or even John Polkinghorne.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yuval Noah Harari ? Why would you study a book by an atheist to try to uncover the main thing ,he hasn’t figured it out yet otherwise  he would be a Christian now. There are many ,many Christian authors that would be more likely to discover the “main thing” , authors like John Storting,JI Packer ,or even John Polkinghorne.</p>
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		By: Mark MacDonald		</title>
		<link>https://anglicanjournal.com/acknowledging-the-painful-errors-of-our-past-2/#comment-15077</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mark MacDonald]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2019 15:17:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thanks, Deacon Steve.  I hope your parish council retreat goes well.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Deacon Steve.  I hope your parish council retreat goes well.</p>
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		By: Deacon Steve Bailey		</title>
		<link>https://anglicanjournal.com/acknowledging-the-painful-errors-of-our-past-2/#comment-15063</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Deacon Steve Bailey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2019 22:44:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Great challenges face us Anglicans. As I prepare a parish council retreat around the theme of “Keeping the ‘Main Thing’ the Main Thing” where the analysis of Israeli historian Yuval Noah Harari presented in his latest work, “21 Lessons for the 21st Century” will be an important focus as we explore how to ‘keep the main thing the main thing’ in terms of the Gospel, I am grateful for Bishop MacDonald’s words. As a deacon, my passion is connecting the needs and realities of the church with our Gospel message. We must begin by developing a comprehensive awareness of contemporary social, cultural, spiritual and economic trends that are shaping the world around us. If we don’t deal with these, Anglicans will be left behind as we limit the Mission of God and the leading of the Holy Spirit in new and vitals directions]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great challenges face us Anglicans. As I prepare a parish council retreat around the theme of “Keeping the ‘Main Thing’ the Main Thing” where the analysis of Israeli historian Yuval Noah Harari presented in his latest work, “21 Lessons for the 21st Century” will be an important focus as we explore how to ‘keep the main thing the main thing’ in terms of the Gospel, I am grateful for Bishop MacDonald’s words. As a deacon, my passion is connecting the needs and realities of the church with our Gospel message. We must begin by developing a comprehensive awareness of contemporary social, cultural, spiritual and economic trends that are shaping the world around us. If we don’t deal with these, Anglicans will be left behind as we limit the Mission of God and the leading of the Holy Spirit in new and vitals directions</p>
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